pappu
09-19 05:36 PM
Another advisory: If you learnt of some sensitive information/strategy while meeting staffers/IV core team or others while in DC, DO NOT SHARE it on these forums. People who have missed the rally will miss such information too and we may choose to post any such information as and when needed. Do not post any such info on open public forums.
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paskal
07-14 10:11 PM
people,
please stop attacking for no good reason. i've been through this whole set of emotions too, and i'm pasting below a dialogue with Greg Siskind on his blog. Greg is a much respected figure in immigration law and does his bit and more to support our cause. please read it, he makes very valid points.
why are these kids our enemies anyway? they are stuck in a bad position and helping them get relief behoves us.
Paskal - The children of legal immigration applicants were specifically covered in the Child Status Protection Act passed earlier in this decade. They are now allowed to immigrate with their parents even if they turn 21 during the middle of the process, a key change designed to ensure that those here for years waiting on green cards could still benefit. There were other important benefits in this bill. read from the bottom up...
But on a separate note, strategically we saw what happened with CIR when we tried to get every fix on one bill. Three years of work down the drain. We need to get each fix done a little at a time and take what we can get each time and focus on getting more in the next battle. One week we have a victory for illegal immigrants. The next we win one for skilled workers. The next we help refugees and asylees. We need to cheer each victory rather than be upset that not every group was helped.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 07:15 PM
Greg,
I do not think people really oppose the relief being offered. Neither do they grudge the proccess of legalization for undocumented immigrants. However there is a great deal of heartburn over the way skilled workers are treated. Why can't this bill include legal children who have lived here most of their lives? kids have to "become illegal" to get benefits? what's the message?
Similarly in CIR, 90,000 GC a year for 5 years were offered for backlog reduction. Compare this to the almost 1 million FB relief and the 11 million GCs for legalization. what's more no one knows how many undocumented workerers there are. 11 or 13 million? so 2 million extra GC are just an asteriek to congress, and yet they won't give paltry increases to skilled workers to cover the backlogs?
this is the source of frustration that's manifesting in the comments you are reading.
Posted by: paskal | July 14, 2007 at 06:58 PM
Some have commented noting that DREAM might pass because it's advocates are showing passion. This should hopefully inspire you rather than upset you. Immigrants Voice has really given me hope that the skilled worker community finally is starting to find the passion that will change minds in Washington. To date, this community has largely depended on the advocacy efforts of groups like AILA and the ITAA rather than on the grass roots efforts of the community itself. These groups do a great job, but they can do so much more in partnership with an active immigrant community.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 06:52 PM
please stop attacking for no good reason. i've been through this whole set of emotions too, and i'm pasting below a dialogue with Greg Siskind on his blog. Greg is a much respected figure in immigration law and does his bit and more to support our cause. please read it, he makes very valid points.
why are these kids our enemies anyway? they are stuck in a bad position and helping them get relief behoves us.
Paskal - The children of legal immigration applicants were specifically covered in the Child Status Protection Act passed earlier in this decade. They are now allowed to immigrate with their parents even if they turn 21 during the middle of the process, a key change designed to ensure that those here for years waiting on green cards could still benefit. There were other important benefits in this bill. read from the bottom up...
But on a separate note, strategically we saw what happened with CIR when we tried to get every fix on one bill. Three years of work down the drain. We need to get each fix done a little at a time and take what we can get each time and focus on getting more in the next battle. One week we have a victory for illegal immigrants. The next we win one for skilled workers. The next we help refugees and asylees. We need to cheer each victory rather than be upset that not every group was helped.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 07:15 PM
Greg,
I do not think people really oppose the relief being offered. Neither do they grudge the proccess of legalization for undocumented immigrants. However there is a great deal of heartburn over the way skilled workers are treated. Why can't this bill include legal children who have lived here most of their lives? kids have to "become illegal" to get benefits? what's the message?
Similarly in CIR, 90,000 GC a year for 5 years were offered for backlog reduction. Compare this to the almost 1 million FB relief and the 11 million GCs for legalization. what's more no one knows how many undocumented workerers there are. 11 or 13 million? so 2 million extra GC are just an asteriek to congress, and yet they won't give paltry increases to skilled workers to cover the backlogs?
this is the source of frustration that's manifesting in the comments you are reading.
Posted by: paskal | July 14, 2007 at 06:58 PM
Some have commented noting that DREAM might pass because it's advocates are showing passion. This should hopefully inspire you rather than upset you. Immigrants Voice has really given me hope that the skilled worker community finally is starting to find the passion that will change minds in Washington. To date, this community has largely depended on the advocacy efforts of groups like AILA and the ITAA rather than on the grass roots efforts of the community itself. These groups do a great job, but they can do so much more in partnership with an active immigrant community.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 06:52 PM
masterji
08-09 02:37 PM
Is there a way to receive an official answer from USCIS (may be IV can ask the question, not sure)? Or is there a law that specifically bars people to leave GC sponsoring employers? I was unable to find from the Internet. Can anyone find?
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Jaime
08-31 04:32 PM
Media always narrates and presents it in a form where the commoner can understand, it needs spice.
Let us hope that we get more media attention and people start listen to us.
That’s the key hereGuys, this article is 100% correct. There are about 1 million people stuck at various stages of the green card process, H-4 dependents cannot work, and H-1Bs cannot get salary raises. Don't detract from such a good and accurate article.
Let us hope that we get more media attention and people start listen to us.
That’s the key hereGuys, this article is 100% correct. There are about 1 million people stuck at various stages of the green card process, H-4 dependents cannot work, and H-1Bs cannot get salary raises. Don't detract from such a good and accurate article.
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db_greencard
10-02 12:44 PM
Applied to TSC on July 23rd, got a transfer notice on Sep 28th. I applied for I131, EAD/I485. My Checks got cleared. My EAD/AP receipt still says CA, but I think they are sending I485 to original I140 apporved center ...for me TSC.
bheemi
02-12 10:24 AM
Hi
I left my previous employer more than 6 months back , he didnt paid me my final paycheck and i complained to DOL since 3 months...now wehn i asked for my W2 he said me to do whatever i feel and he is adamant at not giving it....moreover he said that his company has suffered losses worth 25K and his lawyer has sent a legal notice in this regard....and when i said how will we file taxes he says he wished for me to be out of status and go back.....
Since i have complained to DOL and also it is more than 6 moths since i left his organisation giving proper notice and have email confirmations, can he issue me legeal notice.....?please advice...
He is also saying that he has written to USCIS that I am fraud,....though I have been working in fortune 100 companies and now also working in reputed company and never lied for anything and was on project from day 1 since I came to States....? can USCIS cause problems for me in future...
Also, he seems to have closed his company..
Folks please advice....
You dont need W-2 for filing taxes all the time. As long you have paystubs and i shows howmuch you paid taxes federal and state..that is enough..Please go to HE block or any other CPA who can file taxes and he can help you..
I did same thing 3 years back..and there was no issue at all...
I left my previous employer more than 6 months back , he didnt paid me my final paycheck and i complained to DOL since 3 months...now wehn i asked for my W2 he said me to do whatever i feel and he is adamant at not giving it....moreover he said that his company has suffered losses worth 25K and his lawyer has sent a legal notice in this regard....and when i said how will we file taxes he says he wished for me to be out of status and go back.....
Since i have complained to DOL and also it is more than 6 moths since i left his organisation giving proper notice and have email confirmations, can he issue me legeal notice.....?please advice...
He is also saying that he has written to USCIS that I am fraud,....though I have been working in fortune 100 companies and now also working in reputed company and never lied for anything and was on project from day 1 since I came to States....? can USCIS cause problems for me in future...
Also, he seems to have closed his company..
Folks please advice....
You dont need W-2 for filing taxes all the time. As long you have paystubs and i shows howmuch you paid taxes federal and state..that is enough..Please go to HE block or any other CPA who can file taxes and he can help you..
I did same thing 3 years back..and there was no issue at all...
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thankgod
05-11 02:23 PM
No IV provision is in the bill.
For something to happen, each member needs to do their part by supporting this effort and taking part in action items. With so little support and initiative we cannot expect to match the kind of hard work DREAM act advocates have done.
If we need an amendment, we should be showing up for advocacy day or signing up for monthly contributions, volunteer our time, or doing any state chapter work by meeting local lawmaker offices regularly in groups. Dream Act folks have built a very strong network and advocacy effort that no politician can ignore. Go through the list of things they have been doing over the past few years and you can judge how much percentage we have as a community matched that effort. This is a reality and and ultimately it will be us that are responsible for no bill being passed in the last few years.
The community needs to do more than wasting time on the forums and trackers if they really want any bill to happen.
Definitely it is time to Unite. If they are doing illegal immigrants legal citizens, why should not legal applied immigrants as Green card holders.
Do you think we need to start some thing like flower campaign or sending letters to president like that....
But it is the time to act. Now or Never..........
For something to happen, each member needs to do their part by supporting this effort and taking part in action items. With so little support and initiative we cannot expect to match the kind of hard work DREAM act advocates have done.
If we need an amendment, we should be showing up for advocacy day or signing up for monthly contributions, volunteer our time, or doing any state chapter work by meeting local lawmaker offices regularly in groups. Dream Act folks have built a very strong network and advocacy effort that no politician can ignore. Go through the list of things they have been doing over the past few years and you can judge how much percentage we have as a community matched that effort. This is a reality and and ultimately it will be us that are responsible for no bill being passed in the last few years.
The community needs to do more than wasting time on the forums and trackers if they really want any bill to happen.
Definitely it is time to Unite. If they are doing illegal immigrants legal citizens, why should not legal applied immigrants as Green card holders.
Do you think we need to start some thing like flower campaign or sending letters to president like that....
But it is the time to act. Now or Never..........
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grupak
06-12 02:50 PM
The text of the testimonials on the sub committee hearing is uploaded. Do find the pdf of the testimonials at http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=452
All the witness except Mark Krikorian felt the 3 bills from Rep. Lofgren and one bill from Rep. Wexler (HR 5924 - addressing Nursing shortage) are the need of the hour.
Let us keep working on the phone campaigns.
Interesting reading. Wonder what is it about eugenics that still appeal to some people: Just get some geniuses and they will build heaven as opposed to people who are actually providing vital service to the community. I guess I should get my IQ results translated to English first.
All the witness except Mark Krikorian felt the 3 bills from Rep. Lofgren and one bill from Rep. Wexler (HR 5924 - addressing Nursing shortage) are the need of the hour.
Let us keep working on the phone campaigns.
Interesting reading. Wonder what is it about eugenics that still appeal to some people: Just get some geniuses and they will build heaven as opposed to people who are actually providing vital service to the community. I guess I should get my IQ results translated to English first.
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dpp
07-19 04:37 PM
Yes, don't worry guys. Once I-140 is approved, most of employment and job related stuff is over.
I-485 is mainly for status change stage to check criminal background (not job related :) ), FP and name check. They won't check much on job.
It is all straight forward and only a time consuming stage. Thats all. Enjoy the AOS pending stage.
This is confusing..I have a similar situation(not paid for 2 weeks)..
When i talked to my lawyer she said that employement verification is done in I-140 and since that is approved I dont need to worry abt it for 485??
What does your lawyer say?
I-485 is mainly for status change stage to check criminal background (not job related :) ), FP and name check. They won't check much on job.
It is all straight forward and only a time consuming stage. Thats all. Enjoy the AOS pending stage.
This is confusing..I have a similar situation(not paid for 2 weeks)..
When i talked to my lawyer she said that employement verification is done in I-140 and since that is approved I dont need to worry abt it for 485??
What does your lawyer say?
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raysaikat
04-10 12:24 PM
I know many Indian students in my uni who have cheated and plagiarized and somehow graduated and then gone to these fraud consultants who applied for their h1-b.
Last year I knew at least few Desi masters students who were caught for plagiarism and suspended, but those guys/girls went to a desi fraud consultant who applied for their h1-b based on their bachelors while they were doing there their masters (they had no job, nothing) and guess what?.. they got it!
There are not many desi students at my uni, I have heard these things are very common and happen at a large scale at bigger schools. A lot them of don�t bother to really study because they know would somehow find a job and visa through a bodyshop consultant after they graduate. If these students could do a job, I think anyone in the world could do what they are doing,. no talent or skill is required!
These bodyshops consultant are just bad for everyone- for deserving students, schools and industries.
So I think bodyshops consultant should not be allowed to apply for h1-b at least.
You have nailed it! And it is most prevalent not at the big schools, but rather unnamed "teaching" schools. Absolutely rotten students join M.S. of these universities in hordes, and don't care/able to study. Works in gas pumps and grocery stores to pay for their bills/tuitions, in violation of F-1 regulations. And then get "H1-b" through these body-shoppers.
At the risk of repeating myself, I will say again: just one regulation preventing software consultancies (read: body-shoppers) will remove almost all woes against H1-B program and have a very positive effect on the GC queue in the next decade.
Last year I knew at least few Desi masters students who were caught for plagiarism and suspended, but those guys/girls went to a desi fraud consultant who applied for their h1-b based on their bachelors while they were doing there their masters (they had no job, nothing) and guess what?.. they got it!
There are not many desi students at my uni, I have heard these things are very common and happen at a large scale at bigger schools. A lot them of don�t bother to really study because they know would somehow find a job and visa through a bodyshop consultant after they graduate. If these students could do a job, I think anyone in the world could do what they are doing,. no talent or skill is required!
These bodyshops consultant are just bad for everyone- for deserving students, schools and industries.
So I think bodyshops consultant should not be allowed to apply for h1-b at least.
You have nailed it! And it is most prevalent not at the big schools, but rather unnamed "teaching" schools. Absolutely rotten students join M.S. of these universities in hordes, and don't care/able to study. Works in gas pumps and grocery stores to pay for their bills/tuitions, in violation of F-1 regulations. And then get "H1-b" through these body-shoppers.
At the risk of repeating myself, I will say again: just one regulation preventing software consultancies (read: body-shoppers) will remove almost all woes against H1-B program and have a very positive effect on the GC queue in the next decade.
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chtting2me
10-10 06:04 PM
I opened this thread to know any one working with everest techologies "www.everesttechinc.com" . basically to know how they are treating other employers. Looks like no work is working with them.
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eb3_nepa
03-16 04:37 PM
Thanks beppynyc. Fortunately nothing abt legals in that "warning". Does anyone know when the PACE and the TALENT act come up for debate?
Unfortunately this bill seems to be a total fight between Senate v/s house, Demo v/s Repub, Repub v/s repub. Like Senator Specter said, there is almost No common vision.
Still a little confused about what the actual stance is right now with Sen Frist's bill. Are they going to go ahead with the Frist bill or is the Senate Judiciary committee going to prevail?
Unfortunately this bill seems to be a total fight between Senate v/s house, Demo v/s Repub, Repub v/s repub. Like Senator Specter said, there is almost No common vision.
Still a little confused about what the actual stance is right now with Sen Frist's bill. Are they going to go ahead with the Frist bill or is the Senate Judiciary committee going to prevail?
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ajju
02-27 08:18 PM
I don't think it is the CP filers' fault.
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But, I agree that the requests by the original poster should not be a part of IV's letter campaign.
Everything else will then just follow...
And hopefully no more waiting for mid of the month bulletin updates :-) and years and years of restricted choices due to ongoing GC...
But again.. its we who made these choices :-)
...
But, I agree that the requests by the original poster should not be a part of IV's letter campaign.
Everything else will then just follow...
And hopefully no more waiting for mid of the month bulletin updates :-) and years and years of restricted choices due to ongoing GC...
But again.. its we who made these choices :-)
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syzygy
07-10 09:17 AM
These losers have some infatuation with word "WAR* LOOOOO Doub labels us as *War on middle class* What a joke !
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA
Let's send as many letters to CNN and get his ass fired.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA
Let's send as many letters to CNN and get his ass fired.
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bestia
08-31 11:23 PM
you are assuming he has applied for 485. If he has not, (ie. started labor in 2004) then until atleast July he would be in the same boat. If his LC is still in BEC (remember 30K are still stuck there); then all of this applies to him even after July VB fiasco!
Well.. this is how I understood "He applied for his so-called green card, [...], in 2004" if it means LC, then the article is correct. but then "eight years ago" - doesn't make sense.
BTW, the link works without 'www' (stone to abc's IT guys)
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3526093&page=1
Well.. this is how I understood "He applied for his so-called green card, [...], in 2004" if it means LC, then the article is correct. but then "eight years ago" - doesn't make sense.
BTW, the link works without 'www' (stone to abc's IT guys)
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3526093&page=1
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boys1729
04-10 09:57 AM
I know many Indian students in my uni who have cheated and plagiarized and somehow graduated and then gone to these fraud consultants who applied for their h1-b.
Last year I knew at least few Desi masters students who were caught for plagiarism and suspended, but those guys/girls went to a desi fraud consultant who applied for their h1-b based on their bachelors while they were doing there their masters (they had no job, nothing) and guess what?.. they got it!
There are not many desi students at my uni, I have heard these things are very common and happen at a large scale at bigger schools. A lot them of don�t bother to really study because they know would somehow find a job and visa through a bodyshop consultant after they graduate. If these students could do a job, I think anyone in the world could do what they are doing,. no talent or skill is required!
These bodyshops consultant are just bad for everyone- for deserving students, schools and industries.
So I think bodyshops consultant should not be allowed to apply for h1-b at least.
Last year I knew at least few Desi masters students who were caught for plagiarism and suspended, but those guys/girls went to a desi fraud consultant who applied for their h1-b based on their bachelors while they were doing there their masters (they had no job, nothing) and guess what?.. they got it!
There are not many desi students at my uni, I have heard these things are very common and happen at a large scale at bigger schools. A lot them of don�t bother to really study because they know would somehow find a job and visa through a bodyshop consultant after they graduate. If these students could do a job, I think anyone in the world could do what they are doing,. no talent or skill is required!
These bodyshops consultant are just bad for everyone- for deserving students, schools and industries.
So I think bodyshops consultant should not be allowed to apply for h1-b at least.
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suratvoice
12-27 11:34 AM
We might be looking at it the wrong way. The question is whether outsourcing is bad. Maybe thats not what the question should be. My view is that just like competition, outsourcing and globalization are facts of life. You can fight it, but it will not get you anywhere.
If you think of globalization and realize that the whole world is a marketplace then wont the whole world be a competition for your job?
When I think of outsourcing, I think of just another competition for your job. In some cases though when the entire department is being outsourced you are part of the herd. The same can be said for entire departments laid off.
If you think of globalization and realize that the whole world is a marketplace then wont the whole world be a competition for your job?
When I think of outsourcing, I think of just another competition for your job. In some cases though when the entire department is being outsourced you are part of the herd. The same can be said for entire departments laid off.
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Carlau
06-19 04:16 PM
sats123, I could help you on that (to guess the job description they used to file) - just try to find your position in here: http://www.flcdatacenter.com/OesWizardStart.aspx
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rameshk75
02-13 12:11 PM
Here is my scenario:
My first H1 was approved in 2004. But i came here in June 2005. Will my 6 year count starts from June '05 OR Oct '04 ? Pls suggest.
Thanks
My first H1 was approved in 2004. But i came here in June 2005. Will my 6 year count starts from June '05 OR Oct '04 ? Pls suggest.
Thanks
mpadapa
02-11 11:21 AM
arnab221, I greatly respect your opinion. Here is the primary assumption from the famous thread EB2 will be current in a year (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20185).
I presume EB2 India will be current by next October. Till now for EB2 India there are only 1/3 of 7% of 140K visas which are 3,266. Due to the new change of horizontal fall outs EB2 India exclusively getting about 32k visas, very little share to china. So this change making an availability of about 30k aditional visas to EB2 India along with regular 3,266. So total About 32K visas for EB2 India. This includes unused Family Visa Numbers as well. So from now on EB2 India getting almost 10 times more visas.
And due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of Visa Numbers from Vertical Fall outs, Its not the India which loses but its EB3 ROW.
From the DOS data we know EB2-I got only 14,819 instead of 32K assumed in the above quote. We all hope things would be better but reality seems to be different.
On one hand we have VLD Rao crunching numbers like CRAY XMP and telling that EB2 will be close to current by End of the Year . On the other hand Mapadpa now says that the movement will be slow . I am a mere mortal and i am confused to the core on what to make of it ,
I presume EB2 India will be current by next October. Till now for EB2 India there are only 1/3 of 7% of 140K visas which are 3,266. Due to the new change of horizontal fall outs EB2 India exclusively getting about 32k visas, very little share to china. So this change making an availability of about 30k aditional visas to EB2 India along with regular 3,266. So total About 32K visas for EB2 India. This includes unused Family Visa Numbers as well. So from now on EB2 India getting almost 10 times more visas.
And due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of Visa Numbers from Vertical Fall outs, Its not the India which loses but its EB3 ROW.
From the DOS data we know EB2-I got only 14,819 instead of 32K assumed in the above quote. We all hope things would be better but reality seems to be different.
On one hand we have VLD Rao crunching numbers like CRAY XMP and telling that EB2 will be close to current by End of the Year . On the other hand Mapadpa now says that the movement will be slow . I am a mere mortal and i am confused to the core on what to make of it ,
GCSOON-Ihope
09-14 03:52 PM
Here are a few reasons why I want to get the gc:
1) freedom to change jobs to make a higher salary so that I don't have to work two H1 jobs simultaneously
2) freedom to change your career track into another area, which cannot be done even with AC21 (job has to be essentially the same position)
3) freedom to travel out of the country and back in without going to Canada/Mexico each year for revalidation, for not only personal but even urgent busines trips. I get to see my family and friends, and not spend hundreds of $ in govt and legal fees
4) freedom to quit a job because the company/boss sucks
5) freedom to make enough money so that I can take a break from any job for a while (yes, this is actually a possibility if you have a well-enough paying job)
6) freedom to have one's dependents take advantage of benefits like in-state tuition, and other benefits residency brings
7) and finally freedom from the immense stress that I will lose my job and consequently all the time I have spent waiting for my gc, perhaps uproot myself and have to return to a place where I may not necessarily feel is home anymore
So am I doing what I really want?
No
I completely agree with you, especially regarding point #7...
It's not about money but more about the personal hopes, commitments, everything we already emotionaly invested by coming to this country...
To me, holding that GC in my hand would mean that I haven't gone through all the ordeals I have gone through so far for no reason...
1) freedom to change jobs to make a higher salary so that I don't have to work two H1 jobs simultaneously
2) freedom to change your career track into another area, which cannot be done even with AC21 (job has to be essentially the same position)
3) freedom to travel out of the country and back in without going to Canada/Mexico each year for revalidation, for not only personal but even urgent busines trips. I get to see my family and friends, and not spend hundreds of $ in govt and legal fees
4) freedom to quit a job because the company/boss sucks
5) freedom to make enough money so that I can take a break from any job for a while (yes, this is actually a possibility if you have a well-enough paying job)
6) freedom to have one's dependents take advantage of benefits like in-state tuition, and other benefits residency brings
7) and finally freedom from the immense stress that I will lose my job and consequently all the time I have spent waiting for my gc, perhaps uproot myself and have to return to a place where I may not necessarily feel is home anymore
So am I doing what I really want?
No
I completely agree with you, especially regarding point #7...
It's not about money but more about the personal hopes, commitments, everything we already emotionaly invested by coming to this country...
To me, holding that GC in my hand would mean that I haven't gone through all the ordeals I have gone through so far for no reason...
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