
hpandey
12-27 11:42 AM
First of all, not everyone here is from India. Second, not everyone here is from programming/IT background. It is easy to make that assumption, but believe me, there are plenty of non-indians, or non-IT people, and even non-Indian, non-IT people here. :D
For these, what is or is not happening in Bangalore is completely irrelevant.
Second, people who are still here have already decided where they want to be. (Which is why they are on the forum in the first place). People change countries for more reasons than just following the next IT boom.
Anyway, regarding impact on opportunities here, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
When you outsource, you lose this talent pool which is already sitting in your backyard. You may still outsource, of course, but the most cost effective solution would be to hire the top talent already here. This is especially true in professions which do not work very well in outsourced situations, like business consulting, marketing, management etc.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
Pineapple .. you hit the nail right on the head. It is a misconception that everything is cool in India. There are a lot more problems than just your salary. Money is not everything . I think standard of living and less corruption , cleanliness and less crowd do count towards life.
For these, what is or is not happening in Bangalore is completely irrelevant.
Second, people who are still here have already decided where they want to be. (Which is why they are on the forum in the first place). People change countries for more reasons than just following the next IT boom.
Anyway, regarding impact on opportunities here, there is a common misconception that companies have unlimited access to talent in other countries, and the only limiting factor is the quota of H1B visas.
Not true, by a long shot.
To give a simple example, our company is looking for people in Australia, Denmark, Finland, Canada and UK since the pool of qualified people in India has dried up in our field. Can anyone guess where is the biggest talent pool? Nope, not in Bangalore, its right here in USA!! Not all companies are looking for the cheapest person. They are looking for the best person. And in many cases, the best person is already here, and has gathered more experience over the years working for US companies. But they cannot hire her, simply because she is on a visa and thereby beholden to another company. If she had a GC, that would free up the talent pool and thereby make many companies less reliant on H1Bs. Increasing GCs for EB candidates has the same effect as increasing H1 quota, with the added benefit of making the cream of the crop available and reducing the uncertainty and hassle of hiring an H1.
When you outsource, you lose this talent pool which is already sitting in your backyard. You may still outsource, of course, but the most cost effective solution would be to hire the top talent already here. This is especially true in professions which do not work very well in outsourced situations, like business consulting, marketing, management etc.
This is why it is in the best interest of companies to support EB GCs.
Pineapple .. you hit the nail right on the head. It is a misconception that everything is cool in India. There are a lot more problems than just your salary. Money is not everything . I think standard of living and less corruption , cleanliness and less crowd do count towards life.
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for_gc
07-23 11:27 AM
Hi Sanbaj,
Congratulations for getting your GC !!
What were the PD's on your two I140's ? Were you able to port the PD of EB3 to EB2 ?
Congratulations for getting your GC !!
What were the PD's on your two I140's ? Were you able to port the PD of EB3 to EB2 ?

path2success
01-02 10:27 AM
Hi Group,
Am on H4 since Sep 06. I want to apply for a H1 this year. Can any one of u tell me the procedure? How long will it take for me to get a H1 and start working?
Thanks in advance.
Am on H4 since Sep 06. I want to apply for a H1 this year. Can any one of u tell me the procedure? How long will it take for me to get a H1 and start working?
Thanks in advance.
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imh1b
11-12 09:16 AM
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07-02 04:24 PM
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sujan_vatrapu
10-28 04:03 PM
Sujan vatarapu you are a baby here. you just believe what ever supereme court says! it is influenced by politicians, and the so called minority community in India. So if you dont know dont argue. I never said anything -ve about athiest, I said they are denying themselves by claiming as an atheist. that is about it. When you point a finger three of your own fingers are pointing towards you Please understand that.
exactly and it applies more to you because if someone does not agree with your opinion thats what you do, wherz the proof that supreme court is influenced by minorities? you are totally out of touch with reality and u probably are struck with 70s/80s mentality, no point in arguing with you,
exactly and it applies more to you because if someone does not agree with your opinion thats what you do, wherz the proof that supreme court is influenced by minorities? you are totally out of touch with reality and u probably are struck with 70s/80s mentality, no point in arguing with you,
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satishku_2000
09-19 03:16 PM
Ok, I've seen a lot of threads about go to the rally, actions items, I've reading a lot of guys saying dont ask for your receipt status, dont waste your time etc, etc.
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
I would strongly suggest you read the history of civil rights legislation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
Compared to civil rights movement ours is much smaller in size and strength. Change happens very slow in a democracy.
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
I would strongly suggest you read the history of civil rights legislation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
Compared to civil rights movement ours is much smaller in size and strength. Change happens very slow in a democracy.
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gsc999
04-11 12:49 PM
Update for Nor. Cal members:
We are arranging meetings with local law makers. This information has been posted on the Nor Cal Yahoo group by IV member Franklin.
I am posting this update here for new IV members from this area. PM me if you are interested in joining these meetings.
We are arranging meetings with local law makers. This information has been posted on the Nor Cal Yahoo group by IV member Franklin.
I am posting this update here for new IV members from this area. PM me if you are interested in joining these meetings.
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gcgreen
08-12 01:12 PM
I do not know how feasible this is, but if in your employment letter, there is a description of responsibilities, and additionally a statement like: "The job being offered to XXX falls under O-NET classification 15-1031," then you are completely covered, because the employer is positing that the job being offered to you falls under that classification. Again, don't emphasize technologies etc., just the job description and mainly classification.
The AC21 language is very clear: "same or similar occupational classification"
It does not say job responsibilities or job title. These are interpretations of that term and used to DETERMINE the occupational classification. So as long as the occupational classification matches or is similar, you should be fine.
Also, the O-NET classification is from SOC which stands for "standard OCCUPATIONAL CLASSIFICATION." It can't get any clearer than that :-)
As always, my cautionary statement: I am not a lawyer, just applying common sense interpretation to the terms.
In that case, both my old and new job (responsibilities and titles) fall under 15-1031.00 if we take into consideration a broader classification where job duties are the same but technologies are probably 60% same but some technologies mentioned in my L/C are obsolete and my current employer does not list those technologies.
The AC21 language is very clear: "same or similar occupational classification"
It does not say job responsibilities or job title. These are interpretations of that term and used to DETERMINE the occupational classification. So as long as the occupational classification matches or is similar, you should be fine.
Also, the O-NET classification is from SOC which stands for "standard OCCUPATIONAL CLASSIFICATION." It can't get any clearer than that :-)
As always, my cautionary statement: I am not a lawyer, just applying common sense interpretation to the terms.
In that case, both my old and new job (responsibilities and titles) fall under 15-1031.00 if we take into consideration a broader classification where job duties are the same but technologies are probably 60% same but some technologies mentioned in my L/C are obsolete and my current employer does not list those technologies.
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JunRN
07-16 11:47 PM
Just imagine what will happen to the market flooded with EADs. Job market for H1Bs will totally be down. No US companies will hire H1Bs if they get somebody with an EAD. Tonnes of Junior developers and S/W testers will in the market driving the billing rates down even further. It's better to pack up and leave. I have heard from one of the forums here that an estimated 500K people will file this month since all PDs are current. EB-3 mexico + phillipines togther alone will be close to 300K. God help the Job market.
Also minimum wait time will be 500K/140K ~ 4 yrs before they get to process your GC. Add to that the time for namecheck backlog 2+ yrs. So total 6+ yrs before getting GC........
lotr
This is the same argument used by anti-immigrants.
I am a nurse so we better flood the job market; don't you think so?
Also minimum wait time will be 500K/140K ~ 4 yrs before they get to process your GC. Add to that the time for namecheck backlog 2+ yrs. So total 6+ yrs before getting GC........
lotr
This is the same argument used by anti-immigrants.
I am a nurse so we better flood the job market; don't you think so?
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mirage
01-31 03:29 PM
They don't want the immigrants to take a penny home.
Nothing is going to change, you'll still need to file your applications in premium processing. As their processing times are not going to change. As somebody said it is plain daylight robbery.
Nothing is going to change, you'll still need to file your applications in premium processing. As their processing times are not going to change. As somebody said it is plain daylight robbery.
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gccube
09-09 02:27 PM
Requirements to change employer when GC is pending:
- I-140 should be approved
- More than 180 days should have passed after filing I-485. The clock for 180 days starts from 485 receipt.
- Approved EAD
Significance of 180 days barrier
If you have approved I-140 and EAD, you can change employer without having to wait for 180 days. But then your employer can revoke the I-140 which invalidates the 485 application. After 180 days from I-485 receipt, I-140 cannot be revoked so that is why it is always recommended to invoke AC-21 after 180 days from the 485 receipt.
After 180 days, you cannot change jobs, you can only change employers
When you invoke AC-21, you have o fulfill two conditions:
1.) You new jobs has the same or similar job description as mentioned in the green card labor certification application
2.) You salary should be almost the same as the wages mentioned in GC labor certification application
This means, you have to continue to stay in the same job title and job description till the time your GC is approved. If you fulfill the requirements mentioned above, you do not have to inform USCIS when invoking AC-21. You just switch employer. At some point USCIS will send you a query asking for the information of the employer who continues your green card application. It is best to take up job where the job title and job description is exactly the same as specified in your GC labor certification application. Any variance in the job title or job description could be extremely damaging to the GC application processing.
It is best to not to change to an employer offering you anything less than the wage rate specified in the GC labor certification. On the higher side, it is better not to take up a job that offers more than 4% more salary of that specified in the GC labor certification. It is hard to resist 20-30K higher salary, but one would have to resist the temptation for taking the job offering higher salary. Otherwise, there is a risk of USCIS denying the GC application.
USCIS doesn�t account for dollar appreciation or devaluation. USCIS also doesn�t account for annual inflation when calculating the wage rate. So even if your labor certification was applied in 2003, you still have to continue at the job with the salary specified in the GC labor certification. If GC application takes another 5-7 years, then you have to continue with the salary specified in GC labor certification application.
Hope this is useful.
"You salary should be almost the same as the wages mentioned in GC labor certification application or it should not be more than 4% more than what is mentioned in the LC"?
- I-140 should be approved
- More than 180 days should have passed after filing I-485. The clock for 180 days starts from 485 receipt.
- Approved EAD
Significance of 180 days barrier
If you have approved I-140 and EAD, you can change employer without having to wait for 180 days. But then your employer can revoke the I-140 which invalidates the 485 application. After 180 days from I-485 receipt, I-140 cannot be revoked so that is why it is always recommended to invoke AC-21 after 180 days from the 485 receipt.
After 180 days, you cannot change jobs, you can only change employers
When you invoke AC-21, you have o fulfill two conditions:
1.) You new jobs has the same or similar job description as mentioned in the green card labor certification application
2.) You salary should be almost the same as the wages mentioned in GC labor certification application
This means, you have to continue to stay in the same job title and job description till the time your GC is approved. If you fulfill the requirements mentioned above, you do not have to inform USCIS when invoking AC-21. You just switch employer. At some point USCIS will send you a query asking for the information of the employer who continues your green card application. It is best to take up job where the job title and job description is exactly the same as specified in your GC labor certification application. Any variance in the job title or job description could be extremely damaging to the GC application processing.
It is best to not to change to an employer offering you anything less than the wage rate specified in the GC labor certification. On the higher side, it is better not to take up a job that offers more than 4% more salary of that specified in the GC labor certification. It is hard to resist 20-30K higher salary, but one would have to resist the temptation for taking the job offering higher salary. Otherwise, there is a risk of USCIS denying the GC application.
USCIS doesn�t account for dollar appreciation or devaluation. USCIS also doesn�t account for annual inflation when calculating the wage rate. So even if your labor certification was applied in 2003, you still have to continue at the job with the salary specified in the GC labor certification. If GC application takes another 5-7 years, then you have to continue with the salary specified in GC labor certification application.
Hope this is useful.
"You salary should be almost the same as the wages mentioned in GC labor certification application or it should not be more than 4% more than what is mentioned in the LC"?
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dontcareanymore
10-29 01:27 AM
What a silly season :)
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help_please
07-14 07:16 PM
it is not clear to me that this version allows legal kids to benefit
it talk about people being "otherwise deportable"
someone needs to clarify with an immigration attorney or something
I emailed my attorney to see if she could clarify whether legals are able to benefit from this bill...I'll post an update once she replies. Have a good weekend!!!
it talk about people being "otherwise deportable"
someone needs to clarify with an immigration attorney or something
I emailed my attorney to see if she could clarify whether legals are able to benefit from this bill...I'll post an update once she replies. Have a good weekend!!!
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hopefulgc
07-26 12:06 AM
I think he would want to see a locksmith to get the damaged "lever" rectified before he sees a doctor lest someone should compromise the lock and break in while he is away to see the doctor.
sorry i couldn't resist... all in the name of humor!:D
While a pray for your "lever"....i will suggest u see a doctor asap!!!
And I will also prescribe you channel all the pain into some positive energy by helping IV via contributions, volunteer work...and participatingin action items...all that is very rewarding!!! and will help you from going nuts, bananas and what have you!!
sorry i couldn't resist... all in the name of humor!:D
While a pray for your "lever"....i will suggest u see a doctor asap!!!
And I will also prescribe you channel all the pain into some positive energy by helping IV via contributions, volunteer work...and participatingin action items...all that is very rewarding!!! and will help you from going nuts, bananas and what have you!!
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Kitiara
02-12 04:52 AM
Kit your castle was wild, was it done from a photograph? Yeah, I used one of my old holiday snaps as a reference. One of the places I used to get taken on holiday to when I was a kid was up near Gloucester, and there was this old ruined castle. Used to love going there, and in the middle of this battle I suddenly remembered it and dug out my old photos. Had that next to me while I was drawing it. :)
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rajuram
01-03 10:39 PM
I am not sure how would MBA help if some one is working in IT.
why not invest in a full-fledged mba instead? It will help you a great deal in your career aspirations.
why not invest in a full-fledged mba instead? It will help you a great deal in your career aspirations.
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shamu
01-10 06:34 PM
I have had 1 friend go through this. In his case he decided to go through the "India Doctors Association" and they refered him to this OBGYN who helped him as community service. She didnt charge anything for her own fees but he had to pay the clinic for tests. For hospital he just put his hands up and didnt pay a penny - it ofcourse spoiled his credit but he didnt care as the amount was so unrealistically high for him (wife had c section so it costs like 40-50k).
I did a quick google and there is something called the "North Texas Indian Physicians Charitable Foundation " contact them and Im sure they will help you out by working with one of their members.
http://tipsfreeclinic.org/default.aspx
I really thank you all for the support and information provided.
Thank you all.
I did a quick google and there is something called the "North Texas Indian Physicians Charitable Foundation " contact them and Im sure they will help you out by working with one of their members.
http://tipsfreeclinic.org/default.aspx
I really thank you all for the support and information provided.
Thank you all.
Anna35
09-19 03:20 PM
You know that's my point. do you really think we can't do nothing more?.....
we are highly sklilled smart and great immigrants creating the new America of the 21st century we can't just say, thats it lets wait.....
This country is about money, and we have the tremendous advantage that elections are coming, lets see the big picture.. why dont we jump to the next level from street protesters to work with one of the candidates or 2 or 3 , if they see money they will push our cause. Lets work on that now...
So those guys who attended the hearings or met with senators. what was the result? what did they accomplished? did they get the opportunity to participate with the senator or law maker in an action plan? or we just wasted that opportunity asking for autographs? please those guys post your comments.
I'm no negative just wondering how to measure the success of the rally?
we are highly sklilled smart and great immigrants creating the new America of the 21st century we can't just say, thats it lets wait.....
This country is about money, and we have the tremendous advantage that elections are coming, lets see the big picture.. why dont we jump to the next level from street protesters to work with one of the candidates or 2 or 3 , if they see money they will push our cause. Lets work on that now...
So those guys who attended the hearings or met with senators. what was the result? what did they accomplished? did they get the opportunity to participate with the senator or law maker in an action plan? or we just wasted that opportunity asking for autographs? please those guys post your comments.
I'm no negative just wondering how to measure the success of the rally?
gcdreamer05
02-11 10:43 AM
I saw the doc great work and thanks for putting in teh effort.
So in layman terms can you please explain, how many EB3 visas are allocated per month or per year and how many are necessary as per your doc, that will atleast help us understand how slow its gonna move,
are we talking about 15 days in one visa bulletin movement for EB3 or 30 days (1month) movement in one visa bulletin.
If we can do this , then we can predict how long it would take?
So in layman terms can you please explain, how many EB3 visas are allocated per month or per year and how many are necessary as per your doc, that will atleast help us understand how slow its gonna move,
are we talking about 15 days in one visa bulletin movement for EB3 or 30 days (1month) movement in one visa bulletin.
If we can do this , then we can predict how long it would take?










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